Is Paris Dennard an Uncle Tom ?

[Fake Blanco]

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Also - let Paris get paid imo

[Gama]

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Nuke France.

Frail country anyway.

Frail? If you say so dummy

[txtc]

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no shit it was a set up and the most privileged ppl on this planet took the bait. trump has common sense and framed this as himself and the country vs a bunch of 90 iq millionaires. nfl let this get entirely out of hand and theyre fucked for the foreseeable future. cfb will reign supreme

[Fake Blanco]

Re: Is Paris Dennard an Uncle Tom ?

[MENTION=21662]Gama[/MENTION] regarding the name "Paris" - his family is Haitian

[Snitch Clique]

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Pence being used as a stooge in Trump's childish media games

Pence hasn't been to a game in three years - and before he went tried to fake everybody out with a picture of him at an old game with his wife

He had his tweet about leaving because "they disrespected the troops"within minutes after leaving. Donald Trump couldn't contain himself and twice now took credit for setting this up in a tweet. Something like a quarter million dollars taxpayer cost ..... but Puerto Rico put the budget out of whack

Trump is trying to bring this issue back because he liked the media numbers when he had the NFL thing going. So transparent it's as if a little kid put together the plan.

He's double and trippling down - more NFL tweets… not one mention that the neo-Nazis return to Charlottesville a few days ago. He just drop between that President Trump declares today "Columbus Day"
Nice meaningless pro-white fodder for his base


In other news, the FBI just created a whole new terrorist term called "Black Identiy Extremists" which includes Black Lives Mater and mentions Micah Johnson who shot the police in Dallas
B.I.E. are considered a domestic terrorist threat and pose a threat to law enforcement and the U.S. gvmnt based on "perceived police brutality" ....

It's a pretty vague term. So anyone who protests police brutality against blacks can now be viewed as a terrorist.

lol - right on the heels of the Las Vegas thing which would be A much better example off domestic terrorism by many definitions

What are we on - (?) day number eight of trying to figure out "what was wrong with the shooter" and "why was he depressed" ...

pretty soon Trump will take us to war with the storm after the calm (?) and then any form of protest will be considered "unpatriotic" and not "supporting the troops"


......... shout out Robin Williams for paving the way for long political paragraphs

Didn't you say that the people that were fired upon at the concert were racist Trump supporters? But now that there is potential for broad stroke generalizations it's wrong?


It's wrong all the time or it's never wrong imo.

[Gama]

Re: Is Paris Dennard an Uncle Tom ?

In America the constitution absolutely supersedes "business laws". Hence why players are kneeling. The rules state that they should (not must, which is a pretty important word in context) stand for the Anthem. Now those are NFL rules, each team is privately owned as well. Someone paid hundreds of millions of dollars to own that team. They are well within their rights to assign rules to an organization they own.

They don't "own" the players any more than your employer owns you. The beautiful thing about employment is that it's a choice. If you don't like the way your team is run you can request or even "demand" to be traded. This has happened plenty of times by players that didn't like their teammates, coaches, ownership etc. Or you can even exercise your right to walk away from that employer at any time. You don't HAVE to play football. You don't HAVE to work anywhere. It's a choice. But so long as you choose to accept a paycheck from your employer, you should choose to follow the rules they set forth.

I support the players kneeling, and again I think it's a bad look if they get "fired" just for doing so. But if that happens, or if a team issues a statement that you will be fined/cut for kneeling, that is 100% without a doubt within their rights as the owners of that organization.

There's a substantial difference between requesting someone choose a paycheck over their beliefs, and forcing someone to do so. These players are not forced to do anything.

I understand what you are saying and totally respect your words, for real. But to me contracts with clauses against Humans Rights are illegal in my country. " Do this even if you ain't sharing our beliefs and dissrespect yourself or no food in you and your family table and go fuck yourself " means " be forced to do something " even if the owner did'nt by put a gun on the players head.

Sometimes I ain't get how your laws are working. Laws should be good for people, protected them against all the unfair system in our world .. Not allowed rich to owned poor people with US contracts. Makes me feel bad for real. I guess it is about culture.

I think you're still missing the point. Especially since the protesters have stated on numerous occasions that it isn't the flag/anthem they're protesting. They've only selected that time as the host of their protest because it reaches a lot of people. So what beliefs are really being violated? It's not a matter of beliefs it's a matter of social justice, one that does not rely on the host of their protest. As in, it can and does exist without this particular form of protest.


And you've got to step off the high horse, sir. Because there are companies in France that banned muslim women from wearing the hijab at work. That's a matter of religion, which to some is the ultimate belief. It's all to easy to sit there from the outside and pick out the headlines you see on the internet and start throwing stones.

Nous sommes un pays laïque même si cette notion n'existe pas réellement dans ton pays donc sur ton lieu de travail tu n'as pas a affiché de signes religieux sur soi, donc en effet, pas de Hijaab mais pas de Kippa, de croix de Jésus ou je ne sais quoi. Et je ne jete de pierre qu'à ce commentateur politique qui voulait faire croire à l'audience, des gens qui écoutent ces commentateurs pour leurs connaissances, que Pence n'avait pas préparé tout cela, ce qui était à mes yeux, vraiment irrespectueux envers les gens de tenter de faire de la desinformation. Vous aviez juste envie de parler de Pence et de sa mise en scène et j'étais étonné de voir ce que vous trouviez normal au niveau des contrats et du marche contractuel. C'était un plaisir, bonne soirée et Fuck Paris

You don't see the parallels or irony of what you're saying? Even doing so in French?

You think it's fucked up that an employer would require their employees to stand for the National Anthem (which by the way they were paid to do this back in 2009, before then it wasn't even a requirement to be on the field).


Well I think it's fucked up that French employees have to stand every time some lady walks by them. And when she eats lunch they can't use the hallway or the restroom as to not disturb her with noise.


Guess we all have our quirks.

Yeah all this stuff with ladies I get it, and all these obligation to wear a berret, eat baguettes with red wine, practicing mimes mooves during free times etc are our quirks I guess

[Gama]

Re: Is Paris Dennard an Uncle Tom ?

[MENTION=21662]Gama[/MENTION] regarding the name "Paris" - his family is Haitian

Thank you for the information fb :)

[Snitch Clique]

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Yeah all this stuff with ladies I get it, and all these obligation to wear a berret, eat baguettes with red wine, practicing mimes mooves during free times etc are our quirks I guess

The stuff with "the lady" is real though. She forces her subordinates to stand when she walks in and forbids them from using the hallways next to her private "saloon" while she's eating.

Apparently that's okay to do in France, but an employer having rules about respecting the national anthem is just bananas!

(again, I don't think the protests are disrespectful to the anthem/country/vets at all. Just your logic is spastic)

[Moose]

Re: Is Paris Dennard an Uncle Tom ?

Nuke France.

Frail country anyway.

Frail? If you say so dummy

France isn’t frail?

[Gama]

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That white flag is coming any second.

I love when americans people are talking to french ppl like " World War 2! Remember? We are your heros ! Be humble faggot frog eater "

Always my favor moment when somebody has nothing to say than that

[Moose]

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North Korea would wreck France.

[Robin Williams]

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Gama I apologize on behalf of Americans. Right now a lot of confused people are voicing their opinions, and we're really getting to see how stupid these people are.

[txtc]

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all of europe and north africa would be under the reich if not for the us, yall should suck american dick everyday unless you find national socialism preferable to the socialism you have in place now

[Fake Blanco]

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Didn't you say that the people that were fired upon at the concert were racist Trump supporters? But now that there is potential for broad stroke generalizations it's wrong?


It's wrong all the time or it's never wrong imo.

What I said is that I don't give a shit about those people in the greater scheme of things and that a lot of them were obviously Trump ppl if it's a country western concert of a redneck who appeared in blackface as a joke last year
And I'm not going to fall for the bullshit patriotic sadness tragedy gambit as the media plows on with their documented racial bias in reporting violent crimes

Last time everyone salute the flag and told me to feel sorry for a bunch of dead white people, they took away everyone's rights with the patriot act and went to Iraq to kill a half a million ppl

It's coming

[txtc]

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media plows on with their documented racial bias in reporting violent crimes

clarify pls