Net Neutrality

[Snitch Clique]

Re: Net Neutrality

And the thing is, while they say this will improve competition and innovation, a very large number of Americans only have access to one ISP in their area. So this gives that ISP all of the power and people have no option but to comply. We know just not having the internet isn't a viable option in 2018.

[Chaunce]

Re: Net Neutrality

does net neutrality mean we have to pay for the internet twice ?

It doesn't automatically mean anything negative will happen. It does however give ISPs the power to charge you for different "packages".

In theory they could make you pay a separate fee if you want to access social media, or nerf your speeds if you don't pay. Then a different packages to access spotify/pandora. Then a different package to access porn. Etc.

You could very quickly rack up a huge monthly bill.

,for gods sake tadgh why ?!

what is the point of this and who is the genius that thought of this ?

Like i said there aint much thought behind it other than a conscious effort to roll back everything Obama did.

[g00s3y]

Re: Net Neutrality

Here's a way even ekeatroll can understand.

You pay comcast for internet. (like most people here in the US probably)
You go to foxnews.com for your news.
Comcast doesn't want you to get news from there, they want you to get news from MSNBC, NBC, etc...
You only get access to NBC, MSNBC, etc news in your ISP package.
You want fox news? You pay an extra $10 a month for it.
Don't want to pay for it, find another provider.
Oh wait, there are no other providers...

[Snitch Clique]

Re: Net Neutrality

does net neutrality mean we have to pay for the internet twice ?

It doesn't automatically mean anything negative will happen. It does however give ISPs the power to charge you for different "packages".

In theory they could make you pay a separate fee if you want to access social media, or nerf your speeds if you don't pay. Then a different packages to access spotify/pandora. Then a different package to access porn. Etc.

You could very quickly rack up a huge monthly bill.

,for gods sake tadgh why ?!

what is the point of this and who is the genius that thought of this ?

Because they say the current regulations are another example of big government, which isn't false really. They think that title 2 (Net Neutrality) stifles investment, innovation, and competition. Although executives at some of these top ISPs (Verizon and Comcast, for example) have stated to their investors back when this was introduced that there would be no change from the investment front; so that's a lie.

The ISPs maintain that this has created too much red tape and has prevented them from introducing new features because they're afraid of regulatory blowback if they break any rules. Which is horse shit because the rules themselves haven't drastically changed and aren't that complicated.


tl;dr

This is a money grab for ISP ceos and their investors. They funnel money into politician pockets (on both sides, literally every member of congress has received money from them to an extent) to allow them to form legal monopolies (oligopolies) and insert their power into our collectives assholes.

[Tuna]

Re: Net Neutrality

does net neutrality mean we have to pay for the internet twice ?

It doesn't automatically mean anything negative will happen. It does however give ISPs the power to charge you for different "packages".

In theory they could make you pay a separate fee if you want to access social media, or nerf your speeds if you don't pay. Then a different packages to access spotify/pandora. Then a different package to access porn. Etc.

You could very quickly rack up a huge monthly bill.

,for gods sake tadgh why ?!

what is the point of this and who is the genius that thought of this ?

Like i said there aint much thought behind it other than a conscious effort to roll back everything Obama did.

what exactly did Obama do ? (btw Obama kilt trump in that roast )
If I'm stealing wifi from mcdonalds will they charge me a bill ?

[Snitch Clique]

Re: Net Neutrality

does net neutrality mean we have to pay for the internet twice ?

It doesn't automatically mean anything negative will happen. It does however give ISPs the power to charge you for different "packages".

In theory they could make you pay a separate fee if you want to access social media, or nerf your speeds if you don't pay. Then a different packages to access spotify/pandora. Then a different package to access porn. Etc.

You could very quickly rack up a huge monthly bill.

,for gods sake tadgh why ?!

what is the point of this and who is the genius that thought of this ?

Like i said there aint much thought behind it other than a conscious effort to roll back everything Obama did.

what exactly did Obama do ? (btw Obama kilt trump in that roast )
If I'm stealing wifi from mcdonalds will they charge me a bill ?

If the worst case scenario with this becomes reality, McDonalds probably won't offer WiFi, if they do it likely won't be free or without restriction.

[Tuna]

Re: Net Neutrality

Here's a way even ekeatroll can understand.

You pay comcast for internet. (like most people here in the US probably)
You go to foxnews.com for your news.
Comcast doesn't want you to get news from there, they want you to get news from MSNBC, NBC, etc...
You only get access to NBC, MSNBC, etc news in your ISP package.
You want fox news? You pay an extra $10 a month for it.
Don't want to pay for it, find another provider.
Oh wait, there are no other providers...

wtf man this some bullshit I hope this shit don't happen
so that means if Comcast which I use don't want me to log on otbva instead they want me to log on rmbva or pay a extra 10 bucks

smh man this shit make no sense

[Tuna]

Re: Net Neutrality

America turning into North Korea

[Moose]

Re: Net Neutrality

Here's a way even ekeatroll can understand.

You pay comcast for internet. (like most people here in the US probably)
You go to foxnews.com for your news.
Comcast doesn't want you to get news from there, they want you to get news from MSNBC, NBC, etc...
You only get access to NBC, MSNBC, etc news in your ISP package.
You want fox news? You pay an extra $10 a month for it.
Don't want to pay for it, find another provider.
Oh wait, there are no other providers...

Here's what Goofey can't understand.

Net neutrality was introduced in 2015. Did that happen before that? No? Didn't think so.

Comcast: We're charging for this package and extra for this.
Spectrum: We're offering that, but cheaper!
Verizon: No changes, one flat fee use the internet.

Where do people go?

But muh people that only have one, that's a big incentive for others to provide service for those areas.

Welcome to the free market, dip shit.

[Chaunce]

Re: Net Neutrality

Ya more than likley ull have to start swiping ur card to use public wifi

[Snitch Clique]

Re: Net Neutrality

Here's a way even ekeatroll can understand.

You pay comcast for internet. (like most people here in the US probably)
You go to foxnews.com for your news.
Comcast doesn't want you to get news from there, they want you to get news from MSNBC, NBC, etc...
You only get access to NBC, MSNBC, etc news in your ISP package.
You want fox news? You pay an extra $10 a month for it.
Don't want to pay for it, find another provider.
Oh wait, there are no other providers...

Here's what Goofey can't understand.

Net neutrality was introduced in 2015. Did that happen before that? No? Didn't think so.

Comcast: We're charging for this package and extra for this.
Spectrum: We're offering that, but cheaper!
Verizon: No changes, one flat fee use the internet.

Where do people go?

But muh people that only have one, that's a big incentive for others to provide service for those areas.

Welcome to the free market, dip shit.

The regulations are different now than they were then. But even still, just because they didn't do it before doesn't mean they won't now. The "red tape" that NN created isn't that complex or restricting. There's really no genuine reason to repeal NN. If they don't need the power to be snakes, why are they hell bent on getting it?

As far as free market, it only works when it's not an oligopoly. Just like cell phone plans, they're all pretty close to the same with perks here and there. That's no an accident. All the CEOs meet in closed-door meetings and set that shit up well in advance.

If Comcast wants to charge $10/mo for you to access CNN, Verizon will just charge $10/mo for you to access FOX. They're not competitors, they're golf buddies.

[Chaunce]

Re: Net Neutrality

Here's a way even ekeatroll can understand.

You pay comcast for internet. (like most people here in the US probably)
You go to foxnews.com for your news.
Comcast doesn't want you to get news from there, they want you to get news from MSNBC, NBC, etc...
You only get access to NBC, MSNBC, etc news in your ISP package.
You want fox news? You pay an extra $10 a month for it.
Don't want to pay for it, find another provider.
Oh wait, there are no other providers...

Here's what Goofey can't understand.

Net neutrality was introduced in 2015. Did that happen before that? No? Didn't think so.

Comcast: We're charging for this package and extra for this.
Spectrum: We're offering that, but cheaper!
Verizon: No changes, one flat fee use the internet.

Where do people go?

But muh people that only have one, that's a big incentive for others to provide service for those areas.

Welcome to the free market, dip shit.

The whole situation is abit different this time around, Netfilix uses most of the bandwith in the US and that puts these companies at a disadvantage. They cant buy netflix so now theyre gonna fuck up their money untill netflix folds and joins the program.

[Chaunce]

Re: Net Neutrality

and what tag said.

[Moose]

Re: Net Neutrality

Here's a way even ekeatroll can understand.

You pay comcast for internet. (like most people here in the US probably)
You go to foxnews.com for your news.
Comcast doesn't want you to get news from there, they want you to get news from MSNBC, NBC, etc...
You only get access to NBC, MSNBC, etc news in your ISP package.
You want fox news? You pay an extra $10 a month for it.
Don't want to pay for it, find another provider.
Oh wait, there are no other providers...

Here's what Goofey can't understand.

Net neutrality was introduced in 2015. Did that happen before that? No? Didn't think so.

Comcast: We're charging for this package and extra for this.
Spectrum: We're offering that, but cheaper!
Verizon: No changes, one flat fee use the internet.

Where do people go?

But muh people that only have one, that's a big incentive for others to provide service for those areas.

Welcome to the free market, dip shit.

The regulations are different now than they were then. But even still, just because they didn't do it before doesn't mean they won't now. The "red tape" that NN created isn't that complex or restricting. There's really no genuine reason to repeal NN. If they don't need the power to be snakes, why are they hell bent on getting it?

As far as free market, it only works when it's not an oligopoly. Just like cell phone plans, they're all pretty close to the same with perks here and there. That's no an accident. All the CEOs meet in closed-door meetings and set that shit up well in advance.

If Comcast wants to charge $10/mo for you to access CNN, Verizon will just charge $10/mo for you to access FOX. They're not competitors, they're golf buddies.

That can be said about anything, only time will tell. As for pretty much the same perks, of course that's not an accident. If you're offering nearly the same services, you're going to have competitive pricing. Why would you severely undercut other companies? Just just barely less is enough for most.

While they may be golf buddies, there's nothing stopping me, right now, from starting an ISP, or you, you even Clarke. The market will settle it all in the end.

[Moose]

Re: Net Neutrality

Chaunce as far as Netlix, you're right. They use the most bandwidth, a cost comes with that. That's between them and the ISP.