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  • Welp...”pissgate” dossier was written with info from Clinton Campaign

    https://www.rt.com/usa/417924-referr...nton-campaign/

    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo...0Referral).pdf

    “People close to Hillary Clinton were feeding information to Christopher Steele who compiled the Trump dossier on Trump's alleged connections with Russia, according to a criminal referral filed by Republican senators.”
    So...like...

    officially RIP “muhrussia”

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    Russian collusion charges are dead,imo at least for Trump. I think Mueller going to try hit him with an obstruction charge.
    If that ends up being the case , in some ways in reminds me of someone going to jail and their only charge is resisting arrest.
    Originally posted by billybobjoe
    i cosign ihigh,Brazil is a shit hole

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    • #3
      The Mueller investigation should be shut down. He's got way too broad of a scope, it was never about Russia. That was just a front to find anything/make something. The problem with that is, no matter who you are, you've done something illegal even if you didn't know it. It's supposed to used to investigate Russia, but they got Paul Manafort on some old bullshit trumped up (no pun intended) charges, that shouldn't even be something Mueller is involved with.

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      • #4
        Shouldn't these fuckers be under constant investigation, regardless of the frequency or nature of their offences?

        You're basically saying that 'it happened a long time ago, and everyone does illegal stuff' so it shouldn't matter. Maybe it wasn't Muellers mandate specifically, but the fact that he slipped through the system in the past shouldn't be grounds for exoneration now.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Moose View Post
          The Mueller investigation should be shut down. He's got way too broad of a scope, it was never about Russia. That was just a front to find anything/make something. The problem with that is, no matter who you are, you've done something illegal even if you didn't know it. It's supposed to used to investigate Russia, but they got Paul Manafort on some old bullshit trumped up (no pun intended) charges, that shouldn't even be something Mueller is involved with.
          woah didn't know you were apart of the grand jury.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by OxyGenius View Post
              Shouldn't these fuckers be under constant investigation, regardless of the frequency or nature of their offences?

              You're basically saying that 'it happened a long time ago, and everyone does illegal stuff' so it shouldn't matter. Maybe it wasn't Muellers mandate specifically, but the fact that he slipped through the system in the past shouldn't be grounds for exoneration now.
              First do you even know who Paul Manafort is or what he does? Second, I'm not saying it shouldn't matter, that's stupid. You're an idiot for coming to that conclusion. In a no restrictions environment, Mueller could indict anyone, for pretty much anything. If you tell him you were eating dinner at 9:00pm and later you say it was 9:01, you can be indicted.

              The problem is, he's supposed to be there for Russian collusion, or so we're told. He's going after crimes that have nothing to do with Russia at all. He's just bringing down anyone for anything.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Robin Williams View Post

                woah didn't know you were apart of the grand jury.
                Now you know. Between us the grand jury decided not to indict Manafort and Mueller lied.

                https://i.imgflip.com/ouj1v.jpg

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Moose View Post

                  First do you even know who Paul Manafort is or what he does? Second, I'm not saying it shouldn't matter, that's stupid. You're an idiot for coming to that conclusion. In a no restrictions environment, Mueller could indict anyone, for pretty much anything. If you tell him you were eating dinner at 9:00pm and later you say it was 9:01, you can be indicted.

                  The problem is, he's supposed to be there for Russian collusion, or so we're told. He's going after crimes that have nothing to do with Russia at all. He's just bringing down anyone for anything.
                  Aren't Manafort's Ukranian (as the media purports, pro-Russian) connections kind of relevant for someone investigating Russian collusion? If for no reason other than geography... The fact they discovered legitimate evidence that he broke laws in process shouldn't be ignored, all I'm saying.

                  And no, I don't know Paul Manafort personally, if that matters.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by OxyGenius View Post

                    Aren't Manafort's Ukranian (as the media purports, pro-Russian) connections kind of relevant for someone investigating Russian collusion? If for no reason other than geography... The fact they discovered legitimate evidence that he broke laws in process shouldn't be ignored, all I'm saying.

                    And no, I don't know Paul Manafort personally, if that matters.
                    Sure. It's worth looking into that. The fact they're digging up anything to charge everyone, completely unrelated to Russian collusion, is a problem. They've pretty much moved past Russia all together, now they're trying to get Trump on obstruction.

                    So the Russia investigation, the special council was appointed to investigate, is now trying something completely unrelated.

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                    • #11
                      That could very well be true, but unfortunately it's all speculation at this point. It seems like both sides are too stubborn, impatient, and/or nervous to let things take their natural course.

                      Mueller or his team haven't commented on anything yet, have they? Legit question. IMO people (on both sides) are just insinuating more and more and discrediting an investigation that hasn't born fruit yet, or maybe it has, NOBODY KNOWS, which is kind of the point. Unless you know some insider thats revealed secret information, any opinion on the motives of the investigation are purely speculative.

                      Those charges could easily be leverage (trumped up, likely) to get more information from people that would otherwise have absolutely no incentive to be honest with the special prosecutor, no?

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                      • #12
                        Also, I'm Canadian and don't really give a fuck. I just find it interesting.. Plus whatever happens to daddy affects the kids too......

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by OxyGenius View Post
                          That could very well be true, but unfortunately it's all speculation at this point. It seems like both sides are too stubborn, impatient, and/or nervous to let things take their natural course.

                          Mueller or his team haven't commented on anything yet, have they? Legit question. IMO people (on both sides) are just insinuating more and more and discrediting an investigation that hasn't born fruit yet, or maybe it has, NOBODY KNOWS, which is kind of the point. Unless you know some insider thats revealed secret information, any opinion on the motives of the investigation are purely speculative.

                          Those charges could easily be leverage (trumped up, likely) to get more information from people that would otherwise have absolutely no incentive to be honest with the special prosecutor, no?
                          There's been many leaks from the special council. It has been leaked that they've moved on from Russia to obstruction, which would seem they're there to take down Trump at any costs, rather than a legitimate investigation to Russia. You're right it is leverage, but it becomes a problem when they start overreaching, just to take people down.

                          The new information that comes out daily about Trump/Russia, shows more and more it's a sham. This was a plan since Trump won, it's not a legitimate investigation into Russia, as we're told. It's an attempt to take down Trump with anything, true or false. Now that Russia is falling apart, it's obstruction, if they can't forcefully make that work, it will be something else. It's a hit job.

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                          • #14
                            Didn't know Sean Hannity had an account here with the username "Moose".
                            Originally posted by HEISTBVA
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                            • #15
                              Let's not act like this is the first time government agencies went the RICO route. 90% of police work is blindly throwing darts at the board until one sticks. In one form or another this has been attempted with nearly every president in modern time (and probably every president ever).

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