Another School Shooting... I guess thoughts and prayers aren't working.

[ekelon]

The appropriate measures were taken before hand AFTER he legally bought weapons. He made threats, he got reported to the FBI.

The entire situation in Florida solely happened due to the FBI not doing their job, not the gun.

[Robin Williams]

The appropriate measures were taken before hand AFTER he legally bought weapons. He made threats, he got reported to the FBI.

The entire situation in Florida solely happened due to the FBI not doing their job, not the gun.

The FBI gets thousands of complaints every given day for all kinds of stupid shit. In my experience to give a proper tip, there has to be more information than just a screen shot of a youtube comment. They did their job, they just didn't take it seriously.

However we're not talking about what could of happen, we're talking about how to prevent it. Even if he was making those comments his actions could of been avoided had he not had the gun in the first place.

[Robin Williams]

I’m not going to read your past 2 posts

Wish I saw this before I replied.

I wont be dealing with your bullshit anymore. Have fun posting political narratives you heard from facebook and fox news on a battlerap forums.

[ekelon]

Wish I saw this before I replied.

I wont be dealing with your bullshit anymore. Have fun posting political narratives you heard from facebook and fox news on a battlerap forums.

I said

I’m not going to read your past 2 posts if you’re going to write off my posts as incoherent or delusional.

Typical lefty forcing a narrative.

couldnt give any less of a fuck if I never read any of your posts again. You’re too caught up in your own ego to take anything anyone else offers you seriously. You’ve been countered on every topic you talk about and there’s a reason why the majority of America disagrees with you and the media you worship.

[Robin Williams]

I said



Typical lefty forcing a narrative.

couldnt give any less of a fuck if I never read any of your posts again. You’re too caught up in your own ego to take anything anyone else offers you seriously. You’ve been countered on every topic you talk about and there’s a reason why the majority of America disagrees with you and the media you worship.

I took you seriously, and you just ignored me.


Now fuck off.

[Snitch Clique]

Do you think the majority of those suicide by gun cases happened with a mentally unstable person buying a gun and then shooting themselves right after? Have you even dealt with suicide in your family? If so, you’d know how ignorant that argument is considering those people are normal people with bad shit happening to them down the road in life. Those people wanted to die and would have one way or the other.

I see your reading comprehension hasn't improved.

[ekelon]

I see your reading comprehension hasn't improved.

What’s there to comprehend that I didn’t already address?

Are you trolling me at this point? Or are you just comfortable making blank statements like that?

[Snitch Clique]

What’s there to comprehend that I didn’t already address?

Are you trolling me at this point? Or are you just comfortable making blank statements like that?

I guess I'll break it down barney style for you since your comprehension is awful.

All common sense gun reform includes some sort of mental health evaluation. Suicide is rarely a sudden thing. It usually starts with depression, and there are warning signs. It's very plausible that these warning signs, in at least some cases, would be caught during the aforementioned mental health evaluation. At which point they would be barred from purchasing, or owning, a firearm.

But it really doesn't need to be broken down. Because the asinine post that you plagiarized uses absolutes. "NO gun law would prevent suicide" which is false. Considering all it would have to prevent is literally one suicide for your absolute statement to crumble.


...You're a fucking idiot.

[ekelon]

I guess I'll break it down barney style for you since your comprehension is awful.

All common sense gun reform includes some sort of mental health evaluation. Suicide is rarely a sudden thing. It usually starts with depression, and there are warning signs. It's very plausible that these warning signs, in at least some cases, would be caught during the aforementioned mental health evaluation. At which point they would be barred from purchasing, or owning, a firearm.

But it really doesn't need to be broken down. Because the asinine post that you plagiarized uses absolutes. "NO gun law would prevent suicide" which is false. Considering all it would have to prevent is literally one suicide for your absolute statement to crumble.


...You're a fucking idiot.

I think you’ve misunderstood the point I was making...

Lets day Robin buys a gun at age 20, then shit happens down the road and he kills himself with that gun 10 years later.

Besides a waste of time and money, how would that mental health test he took 10 years earlier and passed done to prevent anything for his case? It doesn’t matter what tool a person has lying around them when they want to die they’ll die.

That same mental evaluation you’re saying they need in order to get a gun, should that be made towards vehicle ownership?

Because...you know...you don’t need a license, insurance, or anything when you buy a vehicle from someone. Doesn’t stop you from operating it either. It’s just illegal to do so, such as it is illegal to have a firearm in gun free zones (which 98% of mass shootings happen at)

Youre not seeing the big picture...probably because you were raised that way.

[Snitch Clique]

I think you’ve misunderstood the point I was making...

Lets day Robin buys a gun at age 20, then shit happens down the road and he kills himself with that gun 10 years later.

Besides a waste of time and money, how would that mental health test he took 10 years earlier and passed done to prevent anything for his case? It doesn’t matter what tool a person has lying around them when they want to die they’ll die.

That same mental evaluation you’re saying they need in order to get a gun, should that be made towards vehicle ownership?

Because...you know...you don’t need a license, insurance, or anything when you buy a vehicle from someone. Doesn’t stop you from operating it either. It’s just illegal to do so, such as it is illegal to have a firearm in gun free zones (which 98% of mass shootings happen at)

Youre not seeing the big picture...probably because you were raised that way.

Obviously you haven't read any of the proposed gun reform policy. Otherwise you'd see that many of the evaluations are recurring, and are also done every time a purchase is made. It also doesn't eliminate the fact that the asinine thing you stole used absolutes, which is easily demolished. It's not my fault you read it and thought it was solid.

Also your hypothetical situations are irrelevant. We don't have a single law or regulation in our country that is 100% effective. But we keep those laws. Because they work better than not having them.

Your false equivalence falls in the same category. Just because someone slips through the cracks of a law or regulation doesn't mean we abandon the law. I love when gun activists use cars as if it's a viable comparison and proves their point. I'm confident when I say everyone that uses that comparison is, at least a little bit, stupid.

Cars are very dangerous. So we constantly regulate and advance our laws on them. People were driving as fast as they wanted and accidents were happening, so we made speed limits. Those limits cut deaths by roughly 20%. Did it cut them by 100%? Nope. Do people still speed? Yep. Did we just say "forget it"? Nope. We added seatbelts. We made it illegal to drive drunk (cut those deaths roughly in half). We are still progressing our regulations and laws to make things just that much safer. Most places it's illegal to talk on the phone and drive. Illegal to text and drive.

The only time this "it won't stop them all!" logic is applied, and seems "logical" to people is guns.

It's you that doesn't see the big picture. Most sensible gun reform is focused on the person, not the gun. Trying to make sure the wrong people don't get guns.

[Snitch Clique]

Also, you and those like you seem to struggle to comprehend mutual exclusivity. Just because other problems exist, and seem more "important" to you, doesn't mean that all of the focus goes there. Contrary to what you believe, people can try and tackle gun reform and also care about/tackle things like auto deaths, or immigration. I know it's very difficult to grasp, but these things can all happen simultaneously.

[RockyfifteeNo]

with an increasing socialist society that is already trying to dictate "proper" speech under the guise of PC culture, the 2nd amendment right is becoming increasingly important.

[Snitch Clique]

with an increasing socialist society that is already trying to dictate "proper" speech under the guise of PC culture, the 2nd amendment right is becoming increasingly important.

Any data to support the claim?

[King Kurbz]

Sad when OTBVA has become just one active thread of 3 fools arguing about guns being good or bad

me like guns
me no like guns
me right
no me right

[Tuna]

shut your faggot mouth before I kill you again for the third time